Nanci recently joined Dr. Frank Mirabal of Portraits in Color Podcast to discuss healing and transformation during the trauma and isolation of the COVID pandemic. Nanci also talks about adultism, internalized racism, language oppression, and how ending oppression requires recognizing healing the hurts of non-target groups.

Portraits in Color Podcast is hosted by Dr. Frank Mirabal, a musician, storyteller, public servant, and 12th generation New Mexican. Each episode takes a unique look at race in America through the stories of artists, entrepreneurs, educators, and others.