I recently had the honor of joining friend and colleague Krista Ripma as a guest on her Authentic Audience Podcast. Krista has really made a commitment to learn and understand the work I do, which opened up another level of conversation for us. I am grateful to be on this journey with her! I can’t wait for you to listen to our conversation. 

In this episode, we explore the guiding principles and outcomes of my 30 year healing practice as a leader in racial justice: 

What I learned being totally present at my mother’s death

How to prioritize healing amid many demands

Staying grounded in goodness in the face of oppression

Deciding to support the healing of White people to end racism

P.S. You can check out a short clip from our conversation on Instagram.